fRan take a hike a long one!

So once again, Mr. Derek Graham, whose wife owns Wyndenfog kennel, posts a poorly informed and illogical diatribe, barely concealing his identity. Not a very seemly thing to do for somebody with a financial interest in keeping Brindi locked up.

Mr. Graham, nobody in their right mind thinks it's okay to keep a dog in a kennel for years at a time, so you'd be well advised to remain silent rather than post such claptrap. Being an anti-intellectual is the least of it.

First of all, you've not only twisted the truth; you've got key facts completely wrong: Francesca did not ask the judge that "Brindi should either go back to her house, which appears to be borderline habitable and a property that offers no basic, let alone, advanced containment planning for a dog with Brindi’s considerations - or – she should go an adoptive home Mr Rogier’s choosing"! Instead she asked for Brindi to be temporarily fostered pending the outcome of the appeal, to a foster home that is mutually acceptable to HRM, the court, and herself. A very reasonable proposal for a dog that is highly deserving. And you can read her brief here: http://www.brindijustice.com/brindi/Motion…
And she didn't propose these things because her home is not suitable, or because she doesn't have a right to have her dog at home pending trial /appeal - as virtually every other dog owner prosecuted in HRM - but because she didn't want to ask for too much and she was putting her dog's interests first, unlike you.

Secondly, you are very well aware that Brindi's vet and trainer have been saying since 2010 that it's bad for Brindi to be kenneled again after her ordeal at the Metro Shelter from 2008 to 2010. In October 2010, they both asked HRM to send her to Belle Kennel if not to a foster home. That was the least HRM should have done, as according to our legal advisors it was completely outside of the law to lock Brindi up month after month. And you, sir, and your wife, are complicit in that action.

And overall, neither you nor HRM has a leg to stand on. Five positive assessments say Brindi should be either at home with Francesca or in an otherwise suitable home. Ms. Jordan testified that she finds Francesca a very responsible owner. Back in 2008 Francesca proposed the very conditions that a judge put in place two years later. Too bad HRM didn't accept them in the first place, so that Brindi didn't have to suffer.

Why would Dr. Larkin and Susan Jordan go out on a limb unless they were sure? Both Larkin and Jordan say that long-term kenneling puts her health AND her temperament at risk. The latter is backed up by a recent study: http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/berg…

For the record, a government contractor operating without a business license for two years at a stretch doesn't exactly add to your wife's credibility. More importantly, the veterinary regulations of Canada designate a 3x4 space as the MINIMUM for a medium-sized dog - for SHORT-TERM housing. Not long term!! There's no door to ward off the elements, and the concrete is dingy and cracked. What a sad prospect for a sweet dog to be in such a place, and viewing your family through the window is not positive visual stimulation - if anything it would taunt a companion animal. Letting her out twice a day for 20 minutes - big deal!!

You and your wife are co-responsible for this tragedy, sir. Under the law Wyndenfog is just as liable as HRM. But you are evidently as calloused as the knees of your "ideal woman".

For a member of the Canadian Armed Forces, your character sure leaves a lot to be desired.

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Posted by humane halifax on 10/06/2012 at 4:36 PM

I see Ms Rogier had a chance to express her views on this subject. I thought that a perspective from the "side of the fence" that Brindi is living on now, might give some insight on what it like to be bullied by a "True Believer"

My, oh my .. what gives .. no slick-spin, negative, American style attack adds/comments against me or the kennel in "Humane Halifax" tweets since 3 Oct .... maybe they have decided to be useful and pick up some doggy do - rather than fling it .... of course FR is still at it...
BTW , I hope she keeps linking the affidavit photos all over the net to her blog. Despite her diatribes, I love the fact that rational people will see that Brindi’s “cage” consists of getting one –if not more, clean 14 ft run always at her disposal - and a MINIMUM 3 ft by 4 ft sleeping area with a heated floor, fresh dog pillow daily, and a ½ acre outdoor play area that is professionally supervised when she is out playing. I find it difficult to fathom how a person with such an extensive education, has a quantum lack of basic observation skills - that also appears to be at par with her inabilities to operate a common car door power widow. Perhaps these are gifts granted by God to only the lowly common and simple folk … like myself, to compensate for our inability to operate on the intellectual plain she does. Apparently, on her “analysis” of my property – which is not “that nice” a property according to her standards (please feel free to compare our respective dwellings on her sites – there are lots of legal and illegal examples – mine is the one NOT falling apart) …, she has failed to notice in the pictures there are bushes for a dog to run around and grass to play on .. oh … and that big wood thing in the background ..its called a tree.. she said there were none – but I am sure I remember in my grade 1 reading books, that thing sticking out of the ground was called a tree … they tend to provide a great wind break and sunshade - along with the newly landscaped embankments that also provide shade and are fun for canines to run up and down. I am making an un-educated guess, but the Supreme Court Judge agreed that this stuff is pretty good and therefore, Brindi’s “sub-standard “ environment doesn’t throw up any red flags for her to intercede, but , what do I know, I just have a basic education and some post secondary. Maybe at MIT, an embankment is also referred to as “rubble” – which is also on the property that she says the dogs must navigate over. She has claimed that the kennel uses barbed wire to restrict the animals. Perhaps the illegally obtained photos she uses from someone trespassing on my neighbours property on her FB pages, have her confused. Now, I must admit, I don’t believe that they teach much about fencing material at U-M, Columbia, Harvard and MIT –and, in all fairness - perhaps she has confused that with the chicken wire she has used on her property. In any event, the simple masses can plainly see that no such containment exists.
It is un-ethical for providing this environment for Brindi , according to Ms. Rogier and Humane Halifax. Brindi should either go back to her house, which appears to be borderline habitable and a property that offers no basic, let alone, advanced containment planning for a dog with Brindi’s considerations - or – she should go an adoptive home Mr Rogier’s choosing … yet the Judge, for some strange, cruel reason - said “no”
My father always used to say it is impossible to rationalize with people that are educated beyond their intelligence…. maybe he had point …perhaps the combined, compressive nature of that much data from so many lofty institutions has lead to some sort of cascading cerebral trauma that interferes with the ability perceive the world properly …


Sweet Jesus WTF does this Whore want,we all back water people in her mind ,,,well I never went to harvard,nore any of my family did.,However we do know right from wrong and when to give up, The damn mutt is given the best possible care ....no tks to you...your shack is a disgrace,you can't control any thing ,even power windows; so go figure.I suggest you get more education just so you can get more stupid....LOL Forget it let it go you will never see mutt again,nor should you you careless BITCH!

More to follow

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OMG.....More crap!

WELL Frannie I just sat through your most recent u tubes crap,where you claim everyone is wrong ,including the Judge,of course you are always right.Accidents my arse you can't control your ex mutt or follow the rules; like laws,have you a clue......I doubt it!

How about showing some respect to the laws of CANADA,and stop making up your own excuses, you are doing nothing to save Brindi,in fact you are pissing people off and at this point many people that cared could care less..........sad part people that tried to save Brindi.....now could care less if the mutt was put down tomorrow.......WHY...because of you....

I haven't reached that point yet bet pretty close......Now go back and try to get some more money out of your suckers,as its all about you,you couldn't care less about your ex mutt.

Go see some shrink you have serious issues,,than call your mommy and get some money to haul your sick sorry arse back to the USA....WE don't need trash like you here.

Cheers.

Humane Halifax......!!!!

Yep frannie , I see how much you love me, I could care less to who you report me....Since you in Canada  we do have freedom of speech. Like it or lump it, yep if I feel your house (SHACK) is un sightly of course I will report it,and if need be report it again, If i think your shack is unsafe,yep I will report, If I see you sneak through a stop sign I will report.
Bottom line is Frannie you not welcome in CANADA, you proved your point,and I as a tax payer am sick and tired of you.
You have fun!
What brought this on do do you ask??

HERE YOU GO!!


Wayne Croft & Co. continue to harass @BrindisMom incl. false reports to HRM about house. Awaiting @hfgpolice/RCMP response.




Bring it on...I am about to reverse it and take legal action against you, I speak the truth I guess you don't like it.       PLAY ON FRANNIE!!!!!


WAYNE.

OK ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!

OK I think I heard enough!

Fran are you not a resident of Canada? I think not,if you were you may have a clue,I see you went to court today,sooooooooo...what did you gain? NOTHING,,,To bad so sad.

Now if you were so concerned which i doubt,your ex Mutts health,welfare..you would of STFU after you lost in Provincial court,but NO you insist on dragging it on,and of course you are entitled to.

But would you not want to see the Mutt RE HOMED?  You claim to be an animal lover...I doubt that!!  Its all about you and your ego; to say nothing of sucking people in to pay your bills,otherwisw why would you have several FB groups begging for money..and a pay pal account to donate to?

My thoughts are that you could care less about Brindi,as you now should realize ...You lost her because you are ...careless,lazy,stupid,a leach,a beggar,and a worthless POS. The First time you lost in court the Judge took pity on you and gave the Mutt back with conditions...Well you blew that in 2 months....So give your head a shake. Its not the Canadian Law that Fucked Up its you sweetie......Ok I now let you go back to begging for $....Good luck....I will contact all people that donate and tell them the full story. But I think most nor realize you are a POS.

Want to sell your shack? ...I will buy it at fair market value,provided you head south of the border.

Cheers

WHO T F>>>>>?? ARE YOU FRAN!!

Why keeping Brindi isolated from contact with dogs is bad for her & her chances of recovery Keeping Brindi isolated from other dogs means not only is her need for social interaction with her own species unmet; it also risks harmful effects on her behavior, jeopardizing her chances in the future. Effects of Group and Individual Housing on the Behavior of Kennelled Dogs in Animal Shelters Abstract: To emphasize the effects of group- and single housing of kennelled dogs, the behavior of 211 dogs in two German animal shelters was tested and observed. After being placed, 197 of the dogs' new owners were interviewed. Although 51% of the German animal shelters already keep dogs in groups, there is strong prejudice against group housing because of the fear of fights. This study demonstrates that this apprehension is unfounded. Ninety-one percent of the social confrontations between dogs housed together were settled by the use of behavioral rituals. Keeping dogs in groups, furthermore, leads to a significant reduction in noise emission (p<.001). Group housing fulfills the dog's need for social interaction and the need to move. Dogs that were housed in groups displayed a closer human-animal relationship (80%) than those that had been kept individually (43%). A high percentage of individually housed dogs suffered from behavioral problems (31%) and 10% developed stereotypes. The percentage of behaviorally disturbed dogs observed in group housing was 11%, and stereotyped forms of behavior did not occur. Dogs who had been kept in groups were, on average, placed within 10 days, and were returned to the animal shelter less often (9%) compared to those housed individually (25%). Dogs that were housed separately needed an average of 17 days to be placed. Even after being placed, there is a correlation between the animal shelter's type of housing and the dog's behavior. Within four weeks after picking up their pet, 88% of the owners of dogs that had been housed individually complained of problems compared to the owners of the dogs that had been kept in groups, 53% of whom were completely satisfied with the adoption. Despite the fact that these results might be influenced by the small number of shelters examined, the study leads to the conclusion that keeping dogs in groups is a suitable alternative for dog housing in animal shelters and, for the animals' welfare, is preferable to individual housing. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Our trainer, Susan Jordan, tried to explain to the judge during the trial last March that it is normal for a dog to back-slide in its training under any circumstances. What's really important is whether the aggressive behavior escalates - which it did not. Also, during those precious ten weeks when she was back home, Brindi was in many situations around strange dogs where she did not react aggressively. And now, based on the findings of this study regarding the increased risk of behavioral problems due to the isolation from other dogs, after years of isolation, seems to me that having an incident ten weeks after she was released from two years of isolation from other dogs is understandable. Even for dogs that aren't known to have any aggressive tendencies, "Within four weeks after picking up their pet, 88% of the owners of dogs that had been housed individually complained of problems". Unfortunately, judges don't apply studies in their decisions, or listen very closely to canine behavior consultants. But essentially, this is further evidence to show that Halifax has been harming my dog's health, well-being, and her chances of successfully recovering and readjusting from all these years of confinement and isolation. Ever since 2008 the city has argued against every option other than death. Judging from her previous arguments, the current municipal prosecutor, Katherine Salsman, would likely exploit the fact that all these years have jeopardized her future to argue that she should be locked up forever or put down. Even sicker, if Halifax had never seized Brindi, it's extremely likely her territorial aggression would be way behind her. I was in the process of training her the first time they took her - which was after an incident in which she didn't even make contact with another dog. I was in the process of training her with an even better trainer and even better methods when they took her the second time, after a minor incident that caused a few scratches to a dog, whose owners kicked Brindi repeatedly without her trying to retaliate. But apparently it is more important to Halifax to cling to the bad laws and bad practices that led to their decision to seize and destroy Brindi. And being alone in the courtroom, representing myself, a person convicted of by-law violations (that the city used as an excuse to seize Brindi), the judge is apt to confuse the message with the messenger. Do I think it would be better to have a lawyer? Of course! Can I pay for one? Heck no. More importantly perhaps, is one available who'd be willing and able to do the job? Not that I could find, and I sure looked, and so did many friends, for a long, long time. at 9/21/2012 07:00:00 PM Links to this post No comments: Here is where Brindi has been kept for the last two years Halifax has never allowed our vet or trainer to visit Brindi at this kennel. Why not? It's a place of business, it boards people's pets. Friends ask, "What are they hiding?" Well, now there's a glimpse of it. Halifax submitted these photos of the Wyndenfog Kennel, where Brindi has been kept for two years now, to a judge who I hope will hear my motion to order that she be sent to a foster home - a real home - pending the outcome of my appeal. This is the outdoor space. It's fenced in, it has no trees for shade or windbreak. They use it for walking her a few times a day - it doesn't appear that they allow her to run around in it by herself. This is Brindi's cell. I don't know what that material is - it looks pretty dreary though. I don't know about the door either - it seems to go right to the outside. What happens when it rains or snows or a cold wild blows and she wants to stay in? Also, the area is 3x4 feet - below the veterinary society minimum standard of 3x5 for indoor runs, even for stays of just one day. For two years, the minimum standard is not very comforting. I can't look at these images for very long, I am fighting back the tears and shrieks already. I can't believe that a civilized city would argue that it's okay and even healthy for my dog to be kept in a kennel for years at a time. Any dog. It's no wonder that when they took Brindi to the vet clinic (instead of allowing the vet to go to the kennel in her mobile unit), Brindi seemed to be in a good mood. She was getting out of the kennel for a few hours a month. September 27 will mark the beginning of her FIFTH year at the hands of Halifax Regional Municipality. The first two were spent in a pound that was even worse than this - but this is not much better, frankly. Even if it were the Plaza Hotel of dog kennels, I just cannot and will not ever understand why any decent person armed with only two facts - that Brindi never bit a person and that she never caused a severe injury to a dog - would agree that keeping her for years in any kennel is an acceptable action!! And yet that is what Halifax is arguing and it has the kennel owner arguing this as well, in court, on Tuesday, Sept. 25, at 2 pm, in the Supreme Court of Nova Scotia. How could any decent person, armed with two key facts - the facts that matter the most, that Brindi never bit a human & never inflicted severe injury to a dog - lock her up for years and years? Even Halifax's attempt to get Brindi killed by smearing me as much as possible, conflating a human's alleged by-law violations with a dog's alleged "dangerousness" - failed. The judge could have ordered her put down, but instead passed the buck to Halifax. Who is going to put a stop to this insanity? Fran do you even have a clue?? you a wack job!

Fran are you fracking NUTS:????

Hey fran do you really think anyone believes this crap..Please go get a friggen job!

""Hayley Clarke, Registrar, Registry of Joint Stock Companies
P.O. Box 1529, Halifax, N.S. B3J 2Y4
Fax: (902) 424-4633
joint&stocks@gov.ns.ca
Re: Wyndenfog Instructional and Kennel Services, ID no. 3103426
Sept. 9, 2012
Dear Ms. Clarke,
Our group, Humane Halifax, is concerned among other things with the welfare of animals in
the care of Halifax Regional Municipality. It’s come to our attention that the Wyndenfog
Instructional and Kennel Services has been operating without a business license for two years.
According to the Registry, the province revoked Wyndenfog’s license for non-payment on Sept.
7, 2010. On reporting this to Service Nova Scotia, we learned that under provincial law,
businesses are subject to a fine of $50 a day for every day they operate without a license, and
we were instructed to provide you with this letter.
Wyndenfog is a government contractor to the Halifax Regional Municipality, which places
animals in its care for long periods of time. As it is not very reassuring to learn that it operates
unlawfully, we are very concerned.
We hope you will take the appropriate action in a timely manner. We’d be very grateful if you
would inform us of same.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Robert Riley, member, Humane Halifax
Halifaxhumane.org
email: humanehalifax@yahoo.ca


Yep Robert Riley can't even spell ...so fran play on...we will to.

A lot of sick people that need serious help.

Francesca Rogier
I hope people are still writing to the contacts! I suggest you put this question to whomever you write:

Why didn't Halifax have Brindi assessed right after the court ruling ordered it to, & then (as we know it would be a positive assessment), adopt her out before the appeal deadline of August 1 (a five-week period)?

A. Because doing so would've been a tacit admission of the city's wrongdoing since 2008, as Halifax continually insisted Brindi must die, without ever having her assessed, and ignoring the positive assessments I had done. (Halifax also ignored the opinion of some of its own employees in Animal Services and the pound contractors, as well as some politicians, not to mention the public.)

On the other hand, NOT doing an assessment and adopting her out in that ample amount of time is even more an admission of wrongdoing since '08, PLUS, the city ignored a direct court order, which is also wrong!

What else is there to say? The city should return her, period, because they have never stopped being in the wrong.
September 10 at 9:14pm

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Dee Turner I think ALL our letters need to be copied to the editors of ALL MEDIA in Halifax to expose this corrupt council and incompetent judge. If we sent them all to you as well Francesca, would that help with your appeal, as well as allow you to send them en masse to the appropriate media? I think it will give your case some much needed leverage to get Brindi released, or at least make these abuses PUBLIC prior to the upcoming re-election of this HRM council.
September 11 at 6:06am · 1
Francesca Rogier I don't know, the judges seem to love to ignore them!
September 11 at 5:55pm
Leanne Pentney Francesca.. you need to get this story out to the big media.. have you contacted Global? The citizens of Canada need to know this plight dog owners are facing across this country. I am from BC and it is happening here. Too many fur babies being taken away from their loving homes. I will share your story with my friends. Prayers xoxoox
8 hours ago · 2
Leanne Pentney Oh and I have added a few peeps who fight for those with no voice. Just waiting on admins approval.
8 hours ago · 1
Dee Turner @Leanne... if you know a politician or media person in BC could you give us the contact info and speak to them about Brindi's case?
8 hours ago
Leanne Pentney I will do what I can.
8 hours ago · 1
Leanne Pentney Just looking into it now for you....CHBC was the media outlet that was contacted about a case here.
8 hours ago
Dee Turner I think if we could involve Elizabeth May, MP from BC (Green Party leader who hails from Halifax) she would be appalled at the injustice and incompetence & recognize the outright corruption going on here. She might be most effective one who could pull rank on these power tripping lugans!
8 hours ago · 1
Leanne Pentney The more people hear about it the better. We elected those officials and now its time for them to do what we ask.
7 hours ago
Leanne Pentney The name I was given was Blaine Gaffney... he sent someone out to do the story. I believe it was with the news media CHBC.
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Dee Turner
If anyone doubts that the HRM is really as EVIL as they appear to be, please be sure to read this editorial by Tim Bousquet, a reporter from The Coast, which clearly exposes the whole truth about the sick politics in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

Feel free to make comments about Brindi's case on this and ANY of his other revealing editorials whose links follow this one below. Tim seems to be the only reporter with ethics, political knowledge & the courage to go after this corrupt council & the Mayor. The general public needs to be educated about these people, for some tangible leverage against them since they are ALL UP FOR RE-ELECTION and won't want this DAMMING INFORMATION KNOWN ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING TO FRANCESCA & BRINDI FOR THE PAST 4 YEARS!!

http://www.thecoast.ca/halifax/morally-bankrupt/Content?oid=3226710
Morally bankrupt
www.thecoast.ca
Last Thursday morning was a crystalizing moment for my understanding of Halifax. A crowd of more than 300 people, overwhelmingly male and exclusively white, besuited in the attire of folks who consider themselves movers and shakers, had gathered at the Neptune Theatre on Argyle Street for a masturba...
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Dee Turner The HRM Election Date is SATURDAY, OCT 20, 2012 which is quite timely for our BIGGEST ONE MONTH PUSH EVER!!! Collectively, we can use this campaign to get BRINDI'S CASE of gross i...See More
7 hours ago

Jana Budoff Maynard
I know you have contacted everyone.. but do you think contacting Ceasar Milan or Victoria Stillwell again might be worth a try? Sounds like the "creatures" in charge are heartless and don't care....I am sorry for you and for Brindi.
September 13 at 7:50pm

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Francesca Rogier Thanks, I have contacted them and encourage others to contact them on our behalf as well!
Sunday at 7:17pm · 1


Now you be the judge!